Ray Dalio on Charlie Rose: We Have a Public and Private Sector Debt Issue, Deleveraging, Tapped Out Stimulus

Source: Charlie Rose
Ray Dalio, founder of Bridgewater Associates, the biggest hedge fund in the world with $125 billion under management (via pensions, endowments, foundations, foreign governments, central banks and other institutional clients), was interviewed on Charlie Rose on 10/20/2011 and said he's concerned about the overly indebted public and private sectors of the U.S. and Europe (debtor-developed economies) during this deleveraging period.

Dalio's main concerns are that fiscal and monetary policies are no longer affective and we're lacking the "quality dialogues" needed to deal with these issues, which ends up creating social tensions (ex. Occupy Wall Street). Watch the full interview at CharlieRose. I embedded a clip after the jump as well. Below are important quotes from the transcript (hat tip Zero Hedge). In an FT article recently, Dalio said: “Our character and our political and social systems are now being tested in ways that have typically been tested in past deleveragings.” It's getting serious people.

"I think it`s important to understand that we`re going through a deleveraging. So we have to understand the big picture is -- there`s a deleveraging. Three big themes: first there`s a deleveraging; secondly we have a problem with monetary and fiscal policies are running out of ammunition; and thirdly we have an issue in terms of people most importantly who are at each other`s throats politically and globally in terms of having a problem resolving those."

"I think it`s very important to understand that the government debt is the terrible challenging issue that we should talk about maybe but also more important is the private sector debt. So that resolving the public sector debt does not resolve the problem."

"We can`t solve the problem easily because we still have too much debt. But we can move forward in being able to make the best of it. We can spread it out, we can keep orderly we have a situation now in which we have a very severe situation, not only because we have a deleveraging going on, but we have a situation in which monetary policy cannot work the way it worked in the past, that fiscal policy will not be stimulative."





Ray Dalio linkfest

Risk on the rise as political leaders give in to mob rule (Financial Times)

Ray Dalio On How The Economic Machine Works (As Of October 2011) (Zero Hedge)

Ray Dalio On Diversified Uncorrelated Bets and How The Machine Works (DistressedVolatility, Bloomberg Video on 9/22/2011)

MASTERING THE MACHINE (New Yorker)

Inside the world's biggest hedge fund (CNN Money, 3/2009)


Articles on deleveraging

"The process of reducing the rich world’s debt burden has barely begun" (Economist, 7/2011)

Households Are Still Deleveraging. Or Not. (Economist's View, 7/2011)

Debt and deleveraging: The global credit bubble and its economic consequences -report (McKinsey Global Institute, 1/2010)

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